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Hi thirumeni,
I hope u r well. I had a question in regards to Deacons. I am trying to write an article in regards to Deacons and ,y question is: What are the liturgical roles of a deacon based on their rank?

Any help would be appreciated and i hope your ministry is well and strong. Hopefully i see u again something this year or next!

Dear ?

Technically you can call only a full deacon a deacon. The first one is called msamrono who is the singer. He will be part of the choir where other msamronos and msamronithos (women singers) sing hymns in the Church. The next is Khoruyo. He is responsible for the Bible readings in the Church. The next is Yapadyakno who is the door keeper. He makes sure that no catechist or non-Christian is inside the Church when the Eucharistic service begins. All the catechists have to leave the Church after the sermon which comes immediately after the reading of the Gospel. Then the deacon comes down with the censor and blesses the congregation and takes report from the yapadyakno that all catechists have left. Then the deacon comes back to the right hand side of the Alter. Then the priest after washing the hands turns to the west and asks for prayers of the congregation. The final order is the msemsono (deacon) usually called full deacon (the others are called sub-deacon as in Catholic Church) is responsible for assisting the priest in the Madbaha. Strictly speaking no one else is allowed in the madbaha other than the full deacon and the clergy. Hope I answered your question.

Regards and prayers


Respected Thirumeni
I would like to know about 2 matters
1. Why do our church not responding to the recent trend of marrying non christians,orthodox parishes in south&midddle kerala used to make mudakku for girls married in marthomite &CSI-they were not allowed to take kurbana or attend their siblinngs marriage as thozhma,not allowed to thalathodiyil n babtism .but tese type of mudakku or banning is not given to girls /boys marrying non christians-

2 In one article written by one of our priest was said -in 2005 their was a Holy synod decision in which During Holy mass women r allowed to read old testment-but yet I havn’t seen this implemented in any orthodox parish but I hav seen this in Catholic &Marthoma churches

3 Can we take Eucharist from Jacobite church & Catholic church,Earlier in Parumala church it was told this is for both factions but now it is told only for or those in this Sabha


Dear ?

Thank you for your note on my space. Regarding your query, I would say:

1. Marriage is a sacrament for the members of the same community. It is not just an agreement between two families of individuals. It has theological and faith related issues involved. If you marry a member of another community, whether it is a Hindu community or another community among Christians, you by virtue of your act, is deserting your community and giving up all privileges and rights in that community. Holy Eucharist is the fellowship meal of the particular community members with Christ, its Lord at the head of the table. It is not a common meal. A person who has deserted the community does not share the family table.

With regard to becoming a god-father or god-mother (thalathodil), the person who is doing that is assuring the community and pledging before God that he/she will raise the child in the faith of the parents of the child. How can a member of another Christian community pledge before God and the community that she/he can raise the child in the faith of the parents? One who becomes a god-father or god-mother should share the same faith as that of the parents of the child to raise the child in that faith. Otherwise the god-father or god-mother will be raising the child in his/her faith which will be alien to the child. So we do not let anyone from another Christian community to become god-mother or god-father. If that person takes a pledge that he/she will raise the child in the faith of the parents of the child he/she will be making a lie before God and the community.

2. Yes there was a decision in the H. Synod allowing women to read Old Testament lesions in the Church during H. Qurbana, not in 2005 but in 1982, and there was a Kalpana regarding that. It is for you to ask the priest and the leaders in the particular congregation why it is not implemented. If the Martha Mariyam Samajam members make demand in this regard, the priest has to oblige. It is for the women to come forward and make use of the privilege.

Hope I have answered your question.

Regards and prayers




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